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Gregory the Great, in his Dialogues (4.18), describes a vision experienced by a young girl, of *Mary (Mother of Christ, S00033). Written in Latin in Rome, c. 593.

Evidence ID

E04588

Type of Evidence

Literary - Hagiographical - Other saint-related texts

Major author/Major anonymous work

Gregory the Great (pope)

Gregory the Great, Dialogues 4.18

Summary:

One evening Mary appeared in a vision to a young girl called Musa. She showed her a number of other young girls, dressed in white, and asked Musa if she wished to join her court. Mary told her to stop laughing and joking, and that in thirty days she would join the girls in the vision. The character of the girl changed and she no longer laughed. When asked why, she said she was following instructions from Mary. After twenty five days she fell ill. On the thirtieth, following another vision of Mary, she died.


Summary: Frances
Trzeciak.

Miracles

Miracle after death
Apparition, vision, dream, revelation

Protagonists in Cult and Narratives

Women
Children
Other lay individuals/ people

Source

Gregory the Great (Pope, 590-604) wrote his Dialogues on the Lives and Miracles of the Italian Fathers (Dialogi de vita et miraculis patrum italicorum) in Rome around 593. Organised into four books, the first three are a collection of lives and miracles of various Italian saints. The longest is the Life of Benedict of Nursia, which comprises the entirety of book 2. The final book consists of an essay on the immortality of souls after death. As a whole, the work documents and explains the presence of the miraculous in the contemporary world and the ability of saints to effect miracles both before and after death. The attribution of the Dialogues to Gregory has been disputed, most recently by Francis Clark who argued that the work was created in the 680s in Rome. Others - such as Adalbert de Vogüé, Paul Meyvaert and Matthew dal Santo - have, however, strongly argued for Gregory's authorship and it is broadly accepted that Gregory was responsible for the Dialogues.

For a discussion of Gregory's devotion in writing the
Dialogues, see E04383, and for the role of the Dialogues as a tract justifying the nature of miracles and theorising on the immortality of souls, see E04457.

Gregory's principal aim in collecting the miracle stories of the holy men and a very few women of sixth-century Italy was to show the presence of God's power on earth as manifested through them, rather than to encourage the cult of these individuals. Indeed, though posthumous miracles at the graves of a few individuals are recorded (and also a few miracles aided by contact relics of dead saints), there is very little emphasis in the
Dialogues on posthumous cult; some of the miraculous events that Gregory records (e.g. E04429) are not even attributed to named individuals. Although very few of the holy persons in the Dialogues are 'proper' saints, with long-term cult, we have included them all in our database, for the sake of completeness and as an illustration of the impossibility of dividing 'proper' saints from more 'ordinary' holy individuals.


Discussion

Musa was the sister of Probus, monk of Rome, source of several of Gregory's stories.

Bibliography

Edition:
Vogüé, A. de, Grégoire le Grand, Dialogues, Sources chrétiennes 265 (Paris: Cerf, 1980).

Translation:
Zimmerman, O.J., Dialogues of Saint Gregory the Great, Fathers of the Church 39 (Washington, D.C.: Catholic University of America Press, 1959).

Further Reading:
Clark, F.,The 'Gregorian' Dialogues and the Origins of Benedictine Monasticism (Leiden: Brill, 2003).

Dal Santo, M., "The Shadow of A Doubt? A Note on the
Dialogues and Registrum Epistolarum of Pope Gregory the Great (590–604)," Journal of Ecclesiatical History, 61.1, (2010), 3-17.

Meyvaert, P., "The Enigma of Gregory the Great’s Dialogues: A Reply to Francis Clark,"
Journal of Ecclesiastical History 39 (1988), 335–81.

Pietri, Ch. and Pietri, L.,
Prosopographie chrétienne du bas-empire, 2 Prosopographie de l'Italie chrétienne (313-604), 2 vols (Rome 1999-2000: École française de Rome), vol. 2, 1525, 'Musa'.

Vogüé, A. de, "Grégoire le Grand et ses Dialogues d’après deux ouvrages récents,"
Revue d’histoire ecclésiastique 83 (1988), 281–348.


Record Created By

Frances Trzeciak

Date of Entry

Related Saint Records
IDNameName in SourceIdentity
S00033Mary, Mother of ChristMariaCertain


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